Illuminati Consultant
July 9th, 2011
You’re now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
You: Hello from the Illuminati
You: ?
Stranger: really?
You: Yes
Stranger: oh man i wish
You: I’m here to answer your questions
You: I’m your local representative
Stranger: hm
You: It’s not coincidence that you began chatting with me
Stranger: i don’t know where to start
Stranger: how so?
You: These things are not by chance
You: Ask away
Stranger: what is the meaning of life?
You: The meaning of life is to evolve into a super-massive intelligent consciousness that will peel back what we perceive as reality to become re-united with the God-head
You: God-head is a universal term, and not religiously specific
Stranger: so basically ascension?
You: Basically
Stranger: do you think humanity is far from there now?
You: It happens when you die too, but that’s the goal overall
Stranger: being able to ascend i mean
Stranger: oh
Stranger: well then
Stranger: how disappoiting
You: Humanity will evolve to something entirely different before ascension
You: Monkey bodies aren’t exactly equipped
Stranger: oh oh
Stranger: will we be more like dinosaurs?
Stranger: neat teeth and claws and all?
You: If you’re not going to take this seriously, I’ll move on to my next appointment
You: I’m very busy
Stranger: no
Stranger: i am
Stranger: i’m sorry
You: Dinosaurs
You: ?
Stranger: well i like dinusaurs
You: Got it
Stranger: pretend i can spell
Stranger: and
Stranger: well
Stranger: i mean they have a lot of natural defences and they look like they could be sturdy bodies
Stranger: empowerment you know
You: I understand
You: This is more inter-connected consciousnesses
You: Like the internet, but for brains
Stranger: i see i see
Stranger: what will happen to our physical bodies?
You: Most likely, there will be a class of humans that do the labor
You: And a class that create the ascension
Stranger: isn’t that a bit heartless?
You: Aren’t we a bit heartless now?
You: No different
Stranger: i see
Stranger: who will decide who gets to ascend and who gets left behind?
You: It’s genetics, but no one will call it that
You: We’ll find some way to avoid the politically incorrectness
You: See
You: Have you ever met someone who you just look at and understand?
You: Immediately?
You: That’s because your genes are talking to each other
Stranger: yes
Stranger: oh
Stranger: really?
Stranger: how are they doing that?
You: Through light
You: It’s a sort of frequency
Stranger: interesting
Stranger: but are you making this up?
Stranger: i know you have to stay in character and all
Stranger: but that’s some wicked neat stuff
Stranger: is any of it true?
You: Well, I am a member of the Illuminati
You: I mean, I’m a person too
Stranger: don’t be silly
You: What do you mean
Stranger: and don’t go
Stranger: this is a game
Stranger: but just because its over you don’t have to go
Stranger: i like your brain
Stranger: you could tell me things
You: I know I can, which is why we connected
You: Ask away
You: I told you, these things don’t happen by accident
You: This is a random connection generator
You: Mostly noise
You: But some signal
Stranger: interesting
Stranger: what did you study in school?
You: Secret societies and cults
Stranger: lol
You: Magick and ritual
Stranger: really?
You: Well, inbetween classes
Stranger: i would have thought it was something more like physics
Stranger: biochemistry
Stranger: something
You: Are you in school?
Stranger: i will be in the fall
Stranger: i took a year off, i’m making money
You: Well, that’s always good
You: You think I’m joking about the Illuminati, but I really am a member
You: This anonymous chat intrigues me
You: Because it’s like screaming secrets into the wind
Stranger: you know i honestly don’t know whether i should tell you i don’t believe you or not
Stranger: because you’re right, but i don’t think that someone worthy of a place in the order of illuminati would just give their secrets up like that
Stranger: i don’t think it works that way
You: You don’t think so?
You: You don’t think that we haven’t screamed our secrets into the wind for centuries?
You: That’s the entire premise of the Order
You: To Illuminate what is hidden
You: Geometry, Architecture, Science
Stranger: hm
You: It’s just that the masses are never ready to hear it
You: So it’s disregarded as magic and heresy
Stranger: can you tell me a secret?
You: Until there’s a tipping point, and then everyone ALWAYS knew that the Earth was round
Stranger: is mona lisa really what davinci thought he would look like as a woman?
You: That’s not from my side of the Order
Stranger: how so?
You: The Italians have a separate group
You: It’s sort of a sydicate
You: *syndicate
Stranger: oh dear
Stranger: i don’t know how to break this to you
Stranger: da vinci was not italian
You: I would check that if I were you
Stranger: lol okay
Stranger: i’m kidding
Stranger: i’m just messing with you
Stranger: come on
You: Got it
Stranger: do you really expect me to believe you in illuminati?
You: Well, your belief doesn’t really change the fact
You: So, it really doesn’t matter
Stranger: tell me some secrets then
You: I could tell you THE secret
You: If you wanted
Stranger: yes!
Stranger: YES
Stranger: YESSS
You: OK. It might not seem that spectacular
You: But here goes
Stranger: please don’t yell the game and disconnect
You: Well, let me set it up first
You: k?
You: It’s better that way
Stranger: okay
You: You know how identity works?
Stranger: yes
You: how we identify ourselves?
You: we create a context
You: a story
You: a narritive
You: that builds our personality and such
You: who we are, what we like, our morals, values, etc..
You: with me?
Stranger: yes
You: *narrative
You: k
You: So when you start stripping away the layers
You: you’re left with a sort of witness to reality
You: I’m sure you’ve done this exercise before
You: yes?
Stranger: no
Stranger: never
You: ok, well
You: try going back and back and back
You: to say, “I am not my legs
You: and dissasociate with your legs
You: I am not my arms
You: and dissassociate with your arms
You: I am not my torso
You: and so on
You: then, you get to your head, eyes, nose, mouth
You: you are not these things
You: and then you get to your thoughts
You: and you say, “I am not my thoughts”
You: and dissasociate yourself with your thoughts
You: right
Stranger: yes
You: ok
You: so you get to this place where you’re not your thoughts
You: but you still are
You: the sort of Descartes existence
You: I think therefore I am
You: you there?
Stranger: m’m
You: k
You: So once you’re there
You: This is the secret
You: You start looking around
You: You are the same as everything else
You: Made of the same stuff
You: So what are you?
You: I AM
You: is all you are
You: And I AM
Stranger: you know i don’t really think i am anything. me is just a bunch of chemical processes that happen for a while
Stranger: and then it’s gone
You: Well, then you’re a deconstructionist
You: And you’re wrong, but that’s ok
Stranger: don’t put me in boxes
You: lol
Stranger: how am i wrong?
You: Once you start the definition
You: Then you begin down the road of definition
You: And you put yourself in a box
You: to be one thing or another
You: What I’m saying is that I AM
Stranger: but i disagree
You: and when I say I AM and you say I AM it’s the same I
Stranger: i am not, i happen
You: So you occur?
Stranger: yes
Stranger: and then i die
Stranger: and it’s over
Stranger: it’s not a lasting thing
Stranger: well
Stranger: you could say i am stardust
Stranger: because really
Stranger: but i’m not something
You: Right
You: At this point, it’s semantics
You: because when you try to describe it
You: you lose it
Stranger: yes
You: that’s why it’s secret
You: because it can’t be spoken
You: name of God, etc…
Stranger: yes
Stranger: exactly
You: So
You: The secret is, that no one can tell it
You: because they can’t, literally tell it
You: They can only show it
You: through art, geometry, architecture
Stranger: well this is no secret
Stranger: i knew this already
You: I know
You: I knew it would underhwhelm you
You: but
You: I hope it was entertaining
Stranger: how old are you?
You: 30
You: you?
Stranger: 20
You: It’s one of those things, the internet
You: No coincidences
Stranger: what is this, really. are you just very bored at work or what?
You: lol
You: first time on omegle
You: just testing the enlightenment waters
You: *I’m really 29, getting ready to be 30
You: just practicing 30
Stranger: oh then you have come as far as it goes, people here are dumb
You: yeah, I figured
Stranger: i mean i’m not the brightest bulb in the room, but seriously
Stranger: it’s like running through mud
You: like I said, a lot of noise and some signal
You: it’s mostly hormones
You: just acting like hormones
Stranger: what do you do for a living?
You: I’m an executive at a Fortune 500 retailer
Stranger: what in the world is fortune 500?
You: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_500
Stranger: oh my!
You: Yeah, told you. Illuminati
You: lol, you still don’t believe me
Stranger: so basically you’re making charts and wasting time?
You: Something like that
Stranger: i see
You: I spent my earlier years on the internet
You: when it was young
You: and people were interesting
You: this reminds me of that
Stranger: i wish i had been there
You: what do you want to go to school for?
Stranger: i’m going to be an astrophysicist
Stranger: really
You: nice
You: money in that?
Stranger: i’m not in it for the money
Stranger: i mean i don’t really know anything about life and space and time and all that jazz
Stranger: and you gotta start somewhere
Stranger: everything else bores me
You: space is one of my favorite topics
You: huge fan
Stranger: obviously
You: I love that we have to comfort ourselves from our ignorance of reality with stories and half truths
You: otherwise we couldn’t handle it
You: space is especially that way
Stranger: how so?
You: It’s easy to explain away space and the way it behaves
You: but we have so much that contradicts our theories, and we just put those on the back burner for later
You: because it’s convenient
You: and we can’t handle thinking we’re entirely wrong
You: *most of us
Stranger: i see where you’re going with this and i agree
Stranger: sort of
You: you’ll be a good student at school!
You: you see both sides of an argument
Stranger: i used to be pretty brilliant actually, before i fried my brain
Stranger: and now i want it back so i’m going back to school
You: acid? ecstacy?
Stranger: oh no
Stranger: it was much simpler than that. but i don’t want to talk about it
You: no problem
You: you’ll do great
Stranger: are you ever going to tell me what you really do?
You: What do you mean?
You: I did
Stranger: then why am i not believing you
You: I’m not going to tell you the company
Stranger: no no
Stranger: but illuminati?
You: yup
You: it’s a heritage thing
You: I didn’t really have a choice
You: I mean, you can choose to not be a part of it, but it’s in your blood
Stranger: why do i not believe you
You: have you ever believed anyone that has told you they were a member of the Illuminati?
Stranger: you’re the first person who has told me that
You: well, there you go
You: you’re new at it
Stranger: what are you getting out of all this?
You: A member of my family was a spy
You: He knew so many secrets and codes, it almost drove him nuts
You: So, he would drive at high speeds on his motorcycle and scream all the codes he knew at the top of his lungs
You: It’s kind of like that
Stranger: you studied psychology or something like that didn’t you
You: Well, I’m a student of human behavior, but I don’t have a degree or anything
You: Why do you think that?
You: Because of my cunning conversational abilities?
Stranger: partially
Stranger: you’re very good at what you do
You: Well, thanks
You: It’s nice to hear from someone once in awhile, seriously
You: So many people are out to get me, it’s rare that I get a compliment that isn’t a veiled threat
You: Or an attempt to get close to me for more control or power
Stranger: what do i have to do to make you drop the act and tell me what this really is all about? because you’re good. but you’re not excellent
You: What makes you think I have another agenda beyond what I have already revealed to you?
You: We don’t know each other
You: I have nothing to gain
Stranger: i think you just like messing with people
Stranger: for no reason
Stranger: it’s like entertainment, only better
You: It would be hard to tell if that were true
You: And hard to tell if it weren’t
Stranger: i mean
You: So I’m not sure what to tell you
Stranger: your story is excellent
Stranger: really
Stranger: and well thought out and all
Stranger: but you keep sabotaging yourself
Stranger: it’s like you want me to see through it
Stranger: i don’t know what to make of you
You: I think you’re probably seeing the two ‘sides’ of my personality
Stranger: and in comes the psychological twist
You: My subtle human side and my ball busting psychopath side
You: It’s sort of a good angel bad angel thing
You: Is that it?
Stranger: yes
Stranger: closer
Stranger: better
Stranger: but you didn’t answer my question
Stranger: why?
You: Well, I’m getting closer anyway
Stranger: to what?
You: There are no coincidences
You: And
You: I know that Fate (capital F) works through me for various purposes, it’s sort of a talent
You: So, when you ask why
You: I can only attempt to shoot at a reason in the dark
You: That Fate (capital F) wanted us to get to know each other (on an anonymous internet thing)
You: And that our connection will have some effect on you, and some effect on me, and we’ll have our paths altered for it
You: That’s a general shot in the dark
Stranger: yes
You: based on experience
Stranger: i already know this
You: Oh, so you’re Plato and I’m Socrates, or the other way around?
You: lol
You: You’re asking me why when you already know the answer
Stranger: no
Stranger: i mean
Stranger: iknow all the grand meaning to all this and the big whys and becauses
Stranger: i want to know what drives you
Stranger: like
Stranger: pick your scull apart and look inside your brain
Stranger: -c +k
You: gotcha
Stranger: tell me
You: You sound like an ex girlfriend
You: lol
Stranger: don’t be silly
You: Except she’s older than 20
Stranger: tell me
Stranger: no wait
Stranger: why is she an ex?
You: You want to know what drives me?
You: She’s an ex because she wanted to know the same answer and couldn’t handle the truth of it
Stranger: and the plot thickens
Stranger: yes i want to know what drives you pretty please
You: The truth is that I am on an unyielding quest to drive humanity towards a better evolved state by allowing people to destroy themselves through engaging in the most satisfying of desires
You: It’s sort of a mission statement
Stranger: and what is the most satisfying of desires?
You: whatever you desire
You: is most satisfying
Stranger: there’s a flaw in your plan
You: do tell
Stranger: well
Stranger: what i desire is to know why you did all this and why you do all this, but when you tell me i will not be destroyed because it’s only then it really gets interesting
You: I see
You: You’re hung up on why
Stranger: very much so
You: when there really might not be an answer
You: let’s start from the beginning for a second
Stranger: allright
You: coming into this conversation, I didn’t know that you were going to enjoy the conversation
You: but
You: I continued anyway
You: and, I had been going on with a similar conversation for awhile
You: knowing, from experience, that some interesting conversations would arise
You: this being the most interesting so far
You: What you’ve done, is to poke and prode and understand better the methods and tactics of the conversation
You: The real question is, and I think you have the answer, why do you want to know why?
You: I’ve only continued based on your questions on wanting to know more
You: So, the answer to your question why is
You: Because you want to know
Stranger: i see what you did there
You: It’s you that wants to know
You: and I am obliging
Stranger: don’t make this about me
You: but it is about you
You: I’ve had the same conversation in a load of chats
You: but this one progressed
You: I’m the same
You: you’re different
You: so, logic would lead us to the assumption that it’s you
You: I’m just saying
You: Sorry for the mindfuck
You: Hope I was gentle
Stranger: don’t worry about it
Stranger: allright
You: You seem ok with it
Stranger: i’m gonna tell you why i want to know
You: I’m always afraid of breaking something
Stranger: because you see
Stranger: usually when this happens, i play the part of you
Stranger: and this time i didn’t because you had your whole illuminati thing set up
Stranger: and how could i disconnect from that
Stranger: i was really bored
Stranger: among other things
You: understood
Stranger: and for a moment i believed you but you kept fucking up
Stranger: so i couldn’t
Stranger: and therefore i want to know why you do this
Stranger: because maybe when you tell me i’ll know why i do this
Stranger: and maybe i’ll learn something
You: so, when you said it was about entertainment
You: was that talking about why you do it?
Stranger: of course
You: but
You: you have to admit that the times you have done it, it has affected people
Stranger: it really has
You: and put them on a path that they weren’t on before
Stranger: i’m not arguing that
You: ok
You: so, is it selfish entertainment to toy with the less strong minded?
You: or is it that you’re a Bodisthava
Stranger: a whatnow
You: placing people on the path to enlightenment
You: lol
Stranger: oh i see
You: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva
Stranger: but you’re still not answering
Stranger: i want a simple one sentence answer
Stranger: no mind games
You: ok
Stranger: just tell me
Stranger: why
You: why what
You: I’m serious
You: why do we do it?
Stranger: no
Stranger: why did you do it
You: oh
Stranger: today
Stranger: other days
Stranger: why
You: it’s a good question
You: It’s not that I’m withholding the answer
You: I know it, but can’t really express it
You: it’s more of a magnetic draw
Stranger: magnetic draw? really?
You: well
You: it’s a bad analogy
You: Fate with a capital F called and I answered
Stranger: you do know that you’re not losing the higher ground or anything by telling me, right?
You: What answer do you expect?
You: I enjoy toying with people, yes.
You: but
You: I also enjoy helping people
You: and sometimes it’s the same
You: People decide their own level of involvement
You: some people only want to know about death, or God, or relgion
You: some people ask questions about their family or business
You: I accomidate all those requests and turn a mirror to them
Stranger: a mirror?
You: another bad analogy
Stranger: allright
Stranger: so where do i fall in you categories of people you’ve messed with?
Stranger: +r
You: I wouldn’t call it messing
You: btw
Stranger: talked to
You: I would say you would fall somewhere between novice and apprentice
You: probably closer to apprentice
You: btw, this is a game that everyone plays
Stranger: oh my
Stranger: everyone?
You: of course!
You: why oh my?
You: what were you surprised about?
Stranger: never in my entire time playing mind games with people has anyone ever seen through it to get to the point where i’d call the my apprentice
Stranger: +m
Stranger: so oh my good sir
Stranger: what have i done
You: lol
You: well, you’ve been initiated into the Illuminati of course
Stranger: oh we’re way past that
Stranger: tell me what you really do
Stranger: i deserve to know, don’t you think?
You: of course not, but that’s ok
You: I really did tell you
You: I’m really an executive at a Fortune 500
You: I’m not joking
Stranger: hm
You: Yeah, I mean there are people that work for these companies
You: I am one of them
You: not really too much of a shocker
Stranger: why aren’t you a teacher?
Stranger: you’d make an excellent teacher
You: I am (thank you)
You: I teach all the people I manage everyday
You: I teach my bosses too, but they won’t admit it
Stranger: lol
You: I teach my customers, my lawyers, my accountants
You: and I learn a tremendous amount from them
Stranger: do you have a wife? a house? two and a half kids and a cat and/or dog?
You: something like that
You: you just can’t believe I’m going to go to work tomorrow
You: and live a normal life
You: after having a conversation like this on the internet
Stranger: i can believe it
Stranger: it’s not heard, i mean come on
Stranger: hard
Stranger: wow i really can’t spell
You: well, it sounds like you can’t believe it
You: so that’s what I assumed
You: yup, normal guy
You: with a brainstorm of thoughts all the time
Stranger: see this is another thing that you did wrong
You: tell me
Stranger: you assumed i didn’t believe it because you want me to not believe it, you want me to think of you like some kind of magical mythical being
You: I can’t say you’re entirely wrong
Stranger: i am very right
You: is that wrong?
Stranger: no
You: for me to want to create that assumption
Stranger: not at all
You: oh ok
You: because you said it was wrong
Stranger: okay how do i explain this
Stranger: it’s like we’re playing poker
You: now I’m intrigued
Stranger: and you keep showing me your hand
You: oh
You: you keep asking to see it
Stranger: it’s not “wrong”, but you’re losing the game
You: am I?
Stranger: if this was a game
Stranger: yes
You: I thought we were creating new rules
You: seems like it anyway
Stranger: yes
Stranger: but then you went
Stranger: “i’m regular, what you don’t believe it”
Stranger: and you changed them
Stranger: that is not even ground
You: oh, I see what you’re saying
You: popped the balloon
You: well, I mean, you’ve been asking me to pop it for awhile
You: just got around to it
Stranger: yes
Stranger: well
Stranger: so
Stranger: how does it feel?
You: you are curious to know
You: I can definitely see why
Stranger: why?
Stranger: pray tell
You: well, it’s either that you believe that you have gotten me to a place that I haven’t been, and are asking me how it feels because you have been there bfore
You: *before
You: or
You: you are wondering if the game will continue because you feel that you’ve ‘won’
Stranger: the game is over
Stranger: i want to know because i’ve never been there myself
Stranger: and because i don’t think you have either
Stranger: have you?
You: I have. During my initiation
You: I know you think I’m kidding
You: but I was initiated. there were swords and everything
Stranger: you know i know you’re kidding
You: well, alright
You: if it makes you feel better
You: here’s what’s interesting
You: no one has been able to ‘evict’ my placement of an image before as well as you
You: so, definitely kudos to that
You: but, from my perspective I just have to use it as a learning experience
You: on eviction
Stranger: oh you are like talking to myself from the future
You: to prevent future evictions and also to help evict others
You: lol
Stranger: so
Stranger: how does it feel?
You: well, I think you know
Stranger: no i don’t
Stranger: that’s the point
You: Here’s the thing
You: I can tell you that a nail going through your foot hurts
You: but
You: how does it feel?
You: hard to really describe
Stranger: painful, huh?
You: well, the nail sure
You: this, not really
You: more like cleaning cobwebs
Stranger: what have you learned?
You: like a freshly mopped floor
You: I’ve learned that your ego is one to be reckoned with
You: a word of advice would be to throw that thing away before it takes over
You: *takes more over
Stranger: my ego?
You: well, what’s all this about how does it feel, what have I learned?
You: seems like ego masturbation to me
Stranger: no!
Stranger: i want to know
Stranger: because if you tell me than i’ll know too
Stranger: i told you, the game is over
Stranger: this is even ground
You: well, the game is never over
You: but if it wsa
You: *Was
You: I would tell you that I feel somewhat defeated, but ultimiately I did it to myself
You: by allowing you little by little to look behind the curtain
Stranger: i always imagined it to feel calm
Stranger: clean
Stranger: when someone finally saw through all my lies and whatnot
Stranger: and sort of terrifying too
Stranger: but that’s probably because i lie about more personal things
You: well, I mean if that’s what you’re getting at
You: there is one person (ex GF) who was the same way
You: so it’s a feeling I’ve felt before
You: much more strongly
Stranger: of course
You: this is like that, but 0 calories
You: it’s more of an infantilizing experience
You: than a clean feeling
You: more like a being re-born, baptized, etc…
Stranger: oh i see
You: you feel dirty, but liberated
You: and, even though you don’t believe me, like the Initiation
You: it’s the same principle
You: re-birth
You: trust
You: etc…
Stranger: hm
Stranger: what happens next?
You: well, I am curious if you’re male or female, just for the record
Stranger: make a wild guess
Stranger: wait
Stranger: you can’t tell?
You: my guess would be female
You: but no, I can’t tell
You: nothing obvious
Stranger: why did you guess female then?
You: probably the connotations with my ex-gf having a similar line of thinking
Stranger: what changes if i’m male?
You: something, but nothing relevent
Stranger: well i am a girl so you’re right
You: it’s probably a non-linear thought pattern or something that gives it away
Stranger: as opposed to?
You: well, a few things that made me think you were female are
You: wanting to ‘pick my brain’
You: no guy wants to ‘pick my brain’ and understand me
You: that I’ve met anyway
Stranger: hm
Stranger: interesting
You: usually it’s because you are either in a relationship
You: or were in a relationship with someone like me
You: or that I reminded you of
You: and that you want to understand them, by asking me questions that you can’t ask them
Stranger: oh my goodness mister, you’re losing your touch
You: lol
You: or it’s just that you’re a psychopath too
You: you don’t live in vegas do you?
Stranger: sorry
Stranger: and you’re wrong you know
Stranger: we’re not psychopats
You: oh no
Stranger: sociopaths, maybe
Stranger: but we’re not psychotic
You: true
You: you are right
You: the reason I ask about vegas
You: is because I just met someone strikingly like you in vegas
You: that’s all
You: and you know fate, etc…
Stranger: oh really
Stranger: well i’ve never been to vegas
Stranger: but still this is good news
Stranger: it means there are more people like me out there
Stranger: and that’s always good
You: I’ll tell you that people like us are basically predators by nature
You: maybe not of the hurting variety
Stranger: dinosaurs
You: but of the manipulating variety
You: the puppetry variety
Stranger: well clearly
You: and it doesn’t matter the number of us, just how high up on the food chain we end up occuring
You: and how many puppets
Stranger: see this is what separates you from me
You: do tell
Stranger: i only want to get to people on a personal level, i have no professional ambitions
Stranger: i just want to learn about stars and gravity and such
You: understood
You: but
You: that’s like a lion going into a jungle and becoming friends with the antelope
Stranger: hahaha
You: I hope you’re right, but it’s difficult not to ascend in whatever structure you put yourself in
You: you are a natural leader and people will gravitate towards you and follow you
You: they always have, correct?
Stranger: sometimes, not always
You: of course not always
You: when you put yourself into a system
You: that system aligns itself to your desires
You: not the other way around
Stranger: hm
You: so, learn about gravity, etc…
You: but wherever you apply that knowledge, you’ll gain power
You: go to University
You: and teach
You: you’ll become the golden child of your department
You: hated by the old guard and embraced by the new
You: maybe I’m all wrong
You: who knows
Stranger: who does indeed
You: what’s hilarious, is that this is more like vegas than you realize
You: because I know know anything about you and you don’t really know anything about me
You: as far as personally
You: yet, we know each other better than most of our friends know us
Stranger: true
You: *don’t know anything about you
You: and after we disconnect, poof
Stranger: but we both learned something though, so it’s a win win
You: and what did you learn?
You: you know what I did
Stranger: i learned that i’m brilliant
Stranger: and AWESOME
You: there’s that ego again
You: feel free to toss that in the trash
You: lol
You: it’ll be better in the long run
Stranger: i’m just kidding
Stranger: i learned that i’ve almost achieved what i wanted to achieve all along
You: Excellent. Well stranger, it has been most pleasurable chatting with you
You: This conversation far exceeded my expectations
You: As you have
Stranger: oh so this is it?
You: It appears so
Stranger: you know what i wanted to achieve is androgynity. i don’t like that people are able to tell my sex by the way i type
Stranger: it was never an ego thing
Stranger: except when you made it an ego thing
You: I see
Stranger: also i’m pretty surprised that you gave in
Stranger: and at how long it took
Stranger: usually people crack much much faster
You: well,
You: I recognized it would be more fun to give in
You: slowly
You: but
You: I was surprised at the results
You: as far as your gender and typing
You: it’s sort of impossible to hide
Stranger: how!
You: It’s just woven into the language
You: unavoidable
Stranger: that’s impossible
You: I don’t think so
Stranger: i mean how could it, english isn’t my first language
You: that’s even worse then, for hiding gender
You: because most non-english language are more gender laden than english
Stranger: hm
You: and you have to shed that
You: as well
Stranger: what
You: the gender references
You: una/uno
You: for example
Stranger: what were you like when you were my age?
You: I was wild
You: but more temperate than my wild friends
You: less willing to take risk
You: very friendly but very vendictive
You: very ahem sexually active
You: but stricken with my flaws in a strong way
Stranger: what kind of flaws?
You: laziness
You: procrastination
You: self destructive behavior
Stranger: did you ever overcome it?
You: yes
Stranger: how
You: well
You: it’s going to sound funny
Stranger: tell me
You: but David Allen helped with the laziness and procrastination
You: he wrote a book called Getting Things Done
You: it sort of helped get things out of my head and into action
Stranger: hm
You: and now I get over 200 emails a day with no problems
You: so, that worked for me, but may not work for others
You: and as far as self destructive behavior
You: I had to understand that everyone is programmed to self destruct
You: and that it’s my job to make sure that I control my own self destruction and do it with a purpose
You: rather than it be non-self serving
You: there’s a book
You: called, “The Psychopath’s Bible” by Dr. Christopher Hyatt
Stranger: lol
You: that’s pretty much the guide
Stranger: but you’re not completely cured, are you
You: well, I’m happy with the progress
Stranger: why did you come to omegle?
Stranger: what are you looking for, waiting for?
You: I’m beginning to wonder what your intention is here
You: I would like to think that you are doing some introspection
You: through me
You: because you have indicated several times that I’m like you, except older
Stranger: not this time, this time i’m mostly asking
You: You know, as a side note
You: I’ve mentioned vegas several times
Stranger: yes
You: because the person that I met there, and the coverations we had ended up the same way as this one is
You: and she asked the same exact question, which is just spooky
You: “Why did you come here, what are you looking for”
Stranger: you’re messing with me again, right
Stranger: i mean come on
You: no, seriously
Stranger: odd and all that jazz
You: I will tell you that it was a dancer
You: lol
You: of the exotic variety
Stranger: you can say stripper, it’s not a bad word
You: well, sure a stripper
Stranger: but you didn’t answer my question(s)
You: hold on
You: I’m just trying to tell you that what I think
You: is that I’m not sure of the answer
You: I wasn’t then, and I’m not now
You: the obvious answer is some kind of intellectual companionship
You: the other answer is that the person who I’m connected to needs the connection
You: or a combination of both
Stranger: you’re sort of like a razor, you cut to the truth of things very quickly
Stranger: but what about your wife and kids and dogs, don’t they make you happy?
Stranger: isn’t that enough?
You: well, it is and it isn’t
Stranger: so
You: I’m not a cheater, but I think that we need to continually create new connections with new people
You: that have meaning
You: why I preface that, is because these connections don’t necessarily require anything further, like with the stripper, for example
You: lol, which the fact that I’m telling you this is ridiculous
Stranger: no it’s not
Stranger: it’s meaningful
Stranger: you have to
Stranger: it’s an animal thing
You: I don’t disagree
You: So, that’s the answer
You: I’m here for an intellectual and meaningful connection that I’m missing from co-workers and family
You: and you?
Stranger: i mostly come here when i’m bored
Stranger: today i finished reading the road and i was unimpressed and i wanted to talk to my friends about it but they were all sleeping so i decided omegle why not
Stranger: and then i met you
You: the road sucked
Stranger: I KNOW
You: the movie will be worse
Stranger: i’m still gonna watch it
You: I thought Christian Bale was going to be in it, then I’d watch it
You: but it’s the other dude
Stranger: viggo mortensen, aragorn
You: yeah
You: he was good in that russian mob movie
Stranger: i never saw it
You: hold on a sec, brb
Stranger: k
You: back
You: So
Stranger: i actually think i only have only one question left
Stranger: obviously you’ve met people like us in the real world before, like the stripper
You: right
Stranger: while i haven’t
Stranger: so i’ve never had the chance to, but you did
Stranger: why didn’t you stay with them?
You: There’s a constant struggle in my world between the safe and the risky
You: people like Fire (really her stripper name) are risky
You: people that I’ve surrounded myself with are safe
Stranger: what are you afraid of?
You: I’m not so much afraid as I am wanting to maintain the status quo
You: a home base
You: there’s no way to create power without a firm foundation
You: you’ve seen poliiticans in the news that screw up their power because of a stripper, yes?
You: or tiger woods,
Stranger: well yeah
Stranger: but there are other ways to go around that
You: like what
Stranger: tiger was just cheating, he wasn’t really looking for anything other than sex.
Stranger: i don’t think it’s the same if you have other intentions
You: well, that’s debatable, because even if Tiger was playing chess with them
You: in the press it’s still cheating
You: regardless
You: that’s the reason
You: because I’ve worked hard to build a foundation
You: and shaking that foundation would come at a cost
You: did I think about staying with her? of course
You: did I think of uprooting everything and moving to vegas, riding a motorcycle and starting over
You: yup
You: but, it would require huge sacrifices and people would get hurt, and it would be a selfish decision
Stranger: but you would never be bored again
You: well, the grass is always greener
Stranger: hm.
You: 5 years with Fire, then she would become the status quo
You: would I then drop her and run to a 20 year old I met on the internet through an anonymous chat room?
You: lol
You: it’s too much to change the status quo
Stranger: oh please this was never about you and me
You: all the time
You: (Just kidding chica)
You: my point is, I maintain a status quo, that makes me very happy
You: but I need to reach out to fulfill an itch that I have for these kinds of connections
You: once it’s scratched, then it’s back to status quo
Stranger: well maybe you’re right and you probably are
Stranger: but for some reason that feels like defeat
You: I know. It does sometimes
You: but
You: do you know what it feels like to have a base of power that you can get large things accomplished with?
You: like the lord of a small town?
You: it’s pretty cool, I gotta tell ya
Stranger: lol
You: so, I give up a lot of the maverick tendencies
You: for some pretty cool Caesar shit
Stranger: fair trade
You: consider it channeling the sociopothy into productive gains
You: I wish someone would have told me that 10 years ago, seriously
You: and I wish I would have listend
You: also, put some money in the bank every month, for real
You: even if it’s 10 bucks
Stranger: i used to think that i one day would wake up and be different and stop being crazy
Stranger: you just shattered that illusion
Stranger: well damn
You: well, don’t call it crazy
You: and then you’re not
You: I think of myself as a more evolved human
Stranger: more evolved? how?
You: well, better able to deal with the current socio-political climate
You: an amplified individual
You: you’re not a worker bee
Stranger: really now
Stranger: hiw
You: hiw?
Stranger: -i +o
You: oh
You: you’re not going to want to get in line behind everyone and go to the meeting room, right?
Stranger: right
You: that’s all I’m saying
You: being an amplified individual means that you are fast paced, get things done and are highly social
You: and not bogged down by the corporate environment
You: just making some suggestions
You: not trying to define you
Stranger: i see
You: Well, I have to wake up and conquer in the world in about 3 hours
You: So I really must bid you adieu
Stranger: i don’t know what to say
You: Me neither
You: I can tell you that you rock
Stranger: well so do you
You: It’s funny, that we are total strangers
You: yet when we disconnect I’m going to feel like I’m missing you
You: it’s strange, but necessary
Stranger: i thought about maybe giving you my email or something, but that really doesn’t go anwyhere
Stranger: it’s like
Stranger: this is it
You: you know, I know I keep bringing it up, so dont’ fault me for it
You: but it’s just uncanny how this is exactly the same as what happened in vegas
You: *minus the kissing and rubbing
Stranger: hahhaha
You: but seriously
Stranger: obviously
You: I almost want to try and think about what I would have said but didn’t
You have disconnected.
Submitted by Thomas from USA
(56 votes, score: 4.68)
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Epic man is epic
This is the most depressing thing I’ve ever read. I felt like this was a romance meant to be but never allowed to happen. Mkes me want to write a new book.
…that was amazing. That conversation is so empowering. It makes me feel like im not just a lump of stardust, but rather like i’m here, and with Fate (capital F) as my guide, to enlighten those who need it most. Ive never spoken with either of these people, but i will always remember this conversation, and when i click the little red X I’ll miss the Illuminati Consultant and Enlightenment Lady.
This whole thing epitomizes the phrase TL;DR
This whole thing epitomizes the phrase TL;DR
There are tears in my eyes.
Wow. It’s amazing.
What a hunk of shit.
reading this long ass conversation made me feel kind of stupid. probably because i am unable to get my point across as well as they did.
As much as it would be difficult for many of us to have a conversation in this way, the ideas they spoke of didn’t seem earth shattering or even remotely interesting to me at all.
It’s just overstated philosophy. Then 1/4 of the way through it becomes completely uninteresting and reveals nothing except for a way long, convoluted way to talk about really obvious stuff, and then it just gets completely off topic and becomes pretty much a normal “get to know you” conversation but with more clever language.
Things like:
- I am myself, I AM, and that’s the only way that words can fully describe it once you take away the physical. Any computer programmer could tell you that variable1 = variable1.
- People want to maintain status quo while indulging occasionally on something more extreme. In these people’s cases, it’s stupid philosophical conversations, but for other people it can be just about anything you can think of.
- Talking about how humanity will “evolve” into a consciousness, much like the internet in concept but for your brain. Any 10 year old who has watched sci-fi movies can come up with that! He’s saying that the whole secret of the Illuminati can be summed up in once sentence that’s not that hard to understand and not that hard to believe, even in his words? Sounds like a stupid society.
Sometimes he was just wrong, like when he said there would be a labor class. More likely robotics would be in charge of labor in this period of “ascension.”
Worst part of the conversation that reveals that these two are just
“I think of myself as a more evolved human [more able to accept the current socio-political climate]” What kind of BS is that?
MOST IMPORTANTLY there’s no way the guy’s a real Illuminati member, or enlightened in any extraordinary way. Since the legend of these secret societies is so famous, there are probably hundreds of societies that believe that they are truly the Bavarian Illuminati.
TL;DR: SOME 30-YO GUY WHO HAS READ A BUNCH OF BOOKS THINKS HE’S AN ILLUMINATI AND, WANTING TO IMPRESS SOMEONE AND MAKE CONVERSATION, FINDS NO ONE RECEPTIVE TO HIS OBVIOUS PHILOSOPHY UNTIL HE FINDS AN IDEALISTIC COLLEGE GIRL WHO THINKS SHE’S ALSO BECOMING ENLIGHTENED WITH HER MAJOR. BOTH THINK THAT THEY ARE ABOVE AVERAGE, ENLIGHTENED, AND “AMPLIFIED” AND THEREFORE MAKE AN AMAAAAAZING CONNECTION (LIKE ME SPENDING 2 HOURS TALKING TO SOMEBODY WHEN I FIND OUT THEY ALSO LIKE MINECRAFT OR BATMAN OR SOMETHING. DO I REALLY HAVE A REAL FATEFUL CONNECTION WITH THAT PERSON??).
connections made in this place where people are free of their physical reference points… are fantasy. we fill our minds with an image of a person that isnt real. that conversation, although, at times, it felt like it was…, wasnt real. each individual was speaking from their own perspective and had very little real communication. their energy intrigued each other but were they actually talking about anything? words are futile. what you perceive as “fun”… is different than my experience of “fun”…. so when i say the word “fun” the images of your perception fill your head… we really dont communicate. would these people… actually confronted with one another physically… really have any interest in each other? would his teeth have made her attracted to him? would her hair made him attracted to her?…… who knows. it was an interesting read….but… ultimately i learned nothing from it.
Not that powerful. He just kinda said the same shit over and over.
just my two cents and love to hear your thoughts but After finishing reading it… I can tell you that in my opinion they are both more lost and confused than they care to admit… they both know there is something greater and use that to entice each other… (really just the so called illuminati doing all this, the other feeds off it, and very obvious that she is a girl from the very beginning and that he is male) they might have a few insights but really everything deep happened in the very beginning and then they just played some mind games and danced around each others thoughts and words feeding each others egos… Anyone who is truly enlightened would know we are all capable of something greater… not just that a select few can raise the bar. This is what some people in power are scared of, that one day we will wake up and realize we all have these great abilities and can put them to use at any time. All that I AM bullshit? we all are I AM. not just a select few. They really just hand fed some basic information that is well known among soul searchers to bait the others interest, and then avoiding going any deeper. Really, there was no illuminati, what was it that they illuminated that is not easy to find with a freaking google search?
no real mention of the metaphysical, spiritual, or even energy… really it was a childish conversation of two bored confused intellectuals trying to probe others to get answers to questions that they only have to look inside themselves to find… they even admit they are socio/psycho. Believe me, I can admit im a little different, some might call me weird, I follow my own beat, but there is no chance I am socio/psycho. I wish I could say I truly learned something from that but it was interesting none the less. I guess the real lesson I learned I already knew, the most important things in life cannot be taught. You want answers, you know where to find them.
and no this really is not my ego mind at all, like I said we are all capable of much more than those 2 individuals had to offer…..
I don’t want to leave this page. I want this conversation to keep going.
This conversation was tripe. One pseudo-intellectual troll and one innocent yet heartwarming….cretin. Facile discussion of topics which are much more interesting than this interlocution would have you believe. Those of you whom are in awe of this conversation are obviously out of your depth with respect to elementary science or philosophy. I myself am naif at very best with regard to both of these subjects, and yet I still found this confabulation really quite rudimentary.
I really just think they were both high…
Man. I’ve had a week of Mondays and it’s only Tuesday. Seriously: I’ve had one of the worst weeks I could imagine. This whole thing really centered me. Sure not all of it was golden and some of it was pompous, pedantic, obvious and shallow, but think of the power of what happened: two people randomly had the kind of conversation they needed. No matter how you slice this, they benefit. If they’re both trolls: they sleep securely in the knowledge of their troll abilities. If he’s a troll: like he said, even trolls can help bring about positive change. If she’s a troll: well, she helped him pontificate which he wanted to do at least partially. But if they’re both real people: this is mind bending in how improbable it is. Goddamn I feel good.
tl;DID r
And it was pure retardation.
Both of you should kill yourselves in a way that will leave a nasty mess and make your mothers cry. They deserve it, dumb bitches.
@Steven
I felt this exact same way only moments before reading your comment.
what?
@Dingus Pringles
My God… thank you this was almost exactly what I was thinking the whole time reading this!
there is no way in hell i’m reading this bullshit
Reading this conversation hit me with a massive force, It was like the 2 sides of my personality were having a conversation. It wasn’t perfect and it wasn’t staged…it was beautiful.
P.S. For those of you who can’t seem to grasp why this is moving… It’s not the words or the meaning of those words that is important here. It’s that 1 in a million chance that you actually meet someone on the same intellectual wavelength, especially through some random internet chat service.